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Utah in the Weeds Episode #94 – Tim Teaches Sister to Use Cannabis for Chemo Relief

What to Expect in This Episode

Episode 94 of Utah in the Weeds features Michelle Spear, Tim’s youngest sister. Michelle suffers from colon cancer and is new to using Medical Cannabis. In this episode, Tim teaches Michelle to use Medical Cannabis to relieve the side effects of chemotherapy.

We began the episode with an overview of Michelle’s battle with cancer, which began in 2016, when she was 32. [03:33]

Next, they talked about cannabis tinctures, which are liquids containing concentrated cannabis extracts. [11:43]

Then, Tim taught Michelle about cannabis gummies. [18:12]

Cannabis vape cartridges are useful for fast-acting relief, and there are some that contain no THC. [26:58]

Podcast Transcript

Tim Pickett:
Welcome everybody out to Utah in the Weeds. This is Tim pickett, and this is episode 94. 94 with my youngest sister Michelle. So, Michelle is 38 years old. She is going through chemotherapy for the third time for colon cancer. She has colon cancer that came back not once but twice. And she’s got four children. She is a spitfire. Okay? And I don’t get the chance to see her very often.

Tim Pickett:
And with her chemotherapy being very … Causing a lot of nausea and her pain getting a little worse, I was able to go up to see her and visit her. And we recorded the interview, and just me teaching her how to use cannabis. Because I thought that would be interesting for people, if you’re interested in that. And give me a chance to interview my sister without causing a lot of emotional stress on both of us. Frankly, I’m a crybaby.

Tim Pickett:
So, I didn’t think interviewing my sister was going to work out really well for me. And my sister also is a go-getter. She does not like to slow down. When we were there, for example, she picked me up from the airport. We went to Costco, bought a bunch of strawberries and candy. Yes, she loves candy. And went to lunch, went home, unloaded everything. She started making strawberry jam, because she was out, needed to make some.

Tim Pickett:
Proceeded to make 15 bottles of strawberry jam, do this interview, and learn about cannabis. Then we were going to dinner. It’s just busy, busy, busy. She nonstop taking care of her kids, building Nerf gun battle setups in the backyard, traveling with her husband. That interview I’d like to do it, but it would be very difficult for this situation I think. So, here is an interview with my sister, Michelle. A little housekeeping before we get into that interview.

Tim Pickett:
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Tim Pickett:
And without further delay, here’s me teaching my sister Michelle, how to use cannabis for nausea and pain. So, I’m up here, little insight into what we’re doing today, one day maybe we’ll post this for the Utah in the Weeds podcast, maybe not. Depends, but I’ve come up here to my sister Michelle’s house. A little insight into the why you get into cannabis medicine. My sister, Missy. Okay. So, here we have … So, you’re doing chemo. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
For the third time [crosstalk 00:04:09].

Michelle Spear:
Second time.

Tim Pickett:
I mean, it’s really the third time. Right? Because you had the HIPEC.

Michelle Spear:
That’s true. That was internal chemo. So yes, this is the third time. About fourth time I’ve had cancer, because radiation-

Tim Pickett:
What was the first time?

Michelle Spear:
First time was my colon.

Tim Pickett:
Well, that was when you were 32?

Michelle Spear:
Yep.

Tim Pickett:
Right? Six years ago.

Michelle Spear:
Yep. And then-

Tim Pickett:
About right now, right? Six years ago you got diagnosed in December?

Michelle Spear:
Nope. After I had Scarlet in March.

Tim Pickett:
So six years ago, right now?

Michelle Spear:
Yep. Six years ago right now I got diagnosed and had chemotherapy for six months, and then 18 months later it came back on my ovaries and my uterus. So, I had that removed, but it erupted so that’s when I did the HIPEC.

Tim Pickett:
That’s when I was working in surgery with Akin.

Michelle Spear:
Yep.

Tim Pickett:
And I remember thinking, “Oh my God, the HIPEC. That’s a major deal.”

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
So, everybody was researching it. That’s a big surgery where they open you up all the way, top to bottom. They fill you with chemotherapy fluid and try to kill it all.

Michelle Spear:
Yep. It’s heated chemo.

Tim Pickett:
What do you think about that now? Do you think that was a good thing?

Michelle Spear:
I think that saved a lot of my life. Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. I mean, I think so too. This time though, you had a bowel obstruct last what, October?

Michelle Spear:
October.

Tim Pickett:
No, it was before that-

Michelle Spear:
But before that I did radiation.

Tim Pickett:
Because November we went to Disneyland. So, it was like August.

Michelle Spear:
That’s true. I did have it bowel obstruction, and I went into the hospital twice in one month. They just did IV fluid and did bowel rest because they didn’t want to open me up. But then the third time I went into the emergency room, they were like, “Well, this obviously isn’t healing itself.”

Michelle Spear:
My doctor that actually did the HIPEC also, he was like, “We got to open you up and see what’s going on.” And so he opened me up and took out two, four inches of my colon or not my colon. I don’t have colon.

Tim Pickett:
No. And how do you figure out … What do they call it now? They can’t call it colon cancer, you don’t have a colon.

Michelle Spear:
It’s true. But they still do. Yes.

Tim Pickett:
Because that’s where it originated.

Michelle Spear:
That is where it originated. So then they did-

Tim Pickett:
So, then he took that piece out, which was obstructed.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
And that was like a ball of scar tissue?

Michelle Spear:
Yep. Two balls of scar tissue they took out, and then they put my … The rest of my intestines in a hammock.

Tim Pickett:
So, now you have a-

Michelle Spear:
Now there’s-

Tim Pickett:
Intestine hammock

Michelle Spear:
I have an intestine hammock.

Tim Pickett:
Does that feel different? Did it feel different at the beginning?

Michelle Spear:
No. I never-

Tim Pickett:
For those of you who are listening, our mom is in the kitchen over here on the other side doing the dishes. Don’t be sorry. It’s fine. But that’s the water you hear. We’re in the kitchen in Spokane and we just got back.

Tim Pickett:
So, I came up here to see you really, but also I’m using cannabis as an excuse to come up here and see you. To give you a little bit of a lesson on some tools in cannabis stuff. Because this time the chemo seems like it’s been worse.

Michelle Spear:
Yes. Which they say after your body has already experienced it, it just reacts more potently, I guess. Because your body’s like, “Oh, I remember this.”

Tim Pickett:
And then, “Oh, I remember that this is like poison.”

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
So, when we talked last week, you were not feeling very good?

Michelle Spear:
No, I have a lot of nausea and pretty much I sleep a lot during the chemo. Because I’m on for three days, well for 48 hours. I take home chemo, and that is when I’m the most sick.

Tim Pickett:
So, you don’t have to go to an infusion center, they just bring it to you?

Michelle Spear:
No I do. I go in and I’m there for about four hours and I do two kinds of chemo there.

Tim Pickett:
Do you remember the names?

Michelle Spear:
One of them is 5FU and FOLFOX.

Tim Pickett:
FOLFOX. Yep. The 5FU and the FOLFOX, that’s the chemo that has been in around for really a generation, I think. Maybe probably more. I worked in GI surgery and we didn’t do the orders for the chemo, but we were very … We had a lot of people with colon cancer that would do that. And then you have a different one that you do also.

Michelle Spear:
You take home. Yep. After the four hours, they give you a chemo that you just … It’s a fanny pack and it slowly puts 0.1 milligrams into your body every minute.

Tim Pickett:
Through your pick? Not your pick, but your port, which you’ve kept all six years.

Michelle Spear:
Yep. Actually this is my second port.

Tim Pickett:
Really?

Michelle Spear:
I got my first port taken out.

Tim Pickett:
Because you were cured.

Michelle Spear:
Because I was cured. And then when I went into the HIPEC, they were like, “Well, since you’re already under, we’re going to put in another port.” And it never got used until now. So, I’m just washing it for the four years.

Tim Pickett:
For the past four years.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. So six years ago you got diagnosed with colon cancer, you had the entire colon removed after having your baby. I mean, that was really a mess. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
You were on TPN for nutrition because you needed to continue the pregnancy for another couple of months. Then you had the baby. You’re already obstructed with cancer. Then you heal from the baby. Then you have your colon removed completely. And by the way, for people who … So, you have a ileostomy bag. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
Because you had a total colectomy with a proctectomy, so you have an ileostomy bag. For those of you who’re out there who think that living with a bag is death, I mean, you are really listening to a person who swims with her kids, goes water skiing.

Michelle Spear:
Skis. I would recommend it actually to people that are-

Tim Pickett:
Well, it’s not like-

Michelle Spear:
It changes your life. Because then all of a sudden you’re not a target going, “Oh, I know where the bathroom is.” Every place you go when you have Crohn’s disease, you know exactly where every bathroom is. I mean, if you’ve ever pooped on the side of the road, I have. But now with the bag you can just…

Tim Pickett:
So it’s not the end of the world, right?

Michelle Spear:
No, it is not the end of the world.

Tim Pickett:
It’s interesting. Your perspective on things has always been pretty interesting, and you’ve always been extremely active. I mean, literally you have a bowel obstruction, you have part of your colon taken outlast fall even. You barely let yourself recover before you went to California.

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
Hiked up and down all those stairs. I remember your husband John, he’s worried because we had all these stairs going down to the beach.

Michelle Spear:
Yes. And he was like, “You better be careful, hold onto the side.” And I’m like, “I’m fine. Whatever.” Yeah. Well and after the HIPEC-

Tim Pickett:
Having Nerf gun parties in the backyard.

Michelle Spear:
After the HIPEC, I went to Hawaii with my kids a month and a half later. I told him, I said, “I got to get out of the hospital because I have Hawaii tickets.”

Tim Pickett:
Wow.

Michelle Spear:
And he’s like, “Oh well, okay.” And he let me swim and…

Tim Pickett:
Interesting.

Michelle Spear:
I don’t let it slow me down.

Tim Pickett:
Well, that’s for damn sure. Okay. So, we’re going to talk about … And this is going to be a lot of stuff that people can’t see. But in front of me laid out, we have just been to the dispensary in Spokane, we’ve been to Cinder. Great people there, different products than in Utah.

Tim Pickett:
Some products that I’ve tried before that I really, really like, and I wish were in Utah. And some products that … Most products that are definitely not in Utah. So, you’ve been using some little mints.

Michelle Spear:
Moxey mints.

Tim Pickett:
Moxey mints, which are one milligram of THC and a little bit of CBD. But you were saying they’re not strong enough. But then when you take too much, you’re-

Michelle Spear:
I feel like I’m on a rollercoaster and I’m like, “I can’t close my eyes. I’m going to go down the hill and it’s going to make me dizzy.”

Tim Pickett:
Really? So when you stand up, is that a problem?

Michelle Spear:
No, it’s more when I close my eyes actually.

Tim Pickett:
When you close your eyes you feel like you’re on a roller coaster?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
But you’ve never smoked weed ever. I mean, I’ve known you my whole life, I know you never smoked weed.

Michelle Spear:
No, I watered it when you guys were kids.

Tim Pickett:
That was not mine that was Katie’s. That was Katie’s on the porch or on the deck.

Michelle Spear:
[inaudible 00:12:56].

Tim Pickett:
You were little though. I mean, we’re talking … Katie was in high school. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
So you were in junior high. You’re six years younger than me.

Michelle Spear:
Yep.

Tim Pickett:
I’m 43, you’re 38.

Michelle Spear:
Yep.

Tim Pickett:
Well, I mean five and a half. You’re exactly five and a half years younger than me. Okay. So, here we have a tincture. Okay? So the first thing we talk about is, with this type of stuff, is you’ve got to build up some tolerance. Okay? You can barely take five milligrams of THC, and you got to build up some tolerance.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
Okay.

Michelle Spear:
Probably, yes.

Tim Pickett:
Because then you can take two and a half milligrams as a micro dose most of the day, and not feel like you’re in a roller coaster when you close your eyes. So we’re not going to try to … For those of you at home, we’re not trying to cure cancer with this cannabis, we’re just trying to feel better.

Tim Pickett:
But it’s relatively safe, so we might as well … I mean, if you can get a lot of cannabinoids in your body and it slows the tumor growth, then why the heck not? So there are cannabinoids we want to think about, CBD. We want to get a bunch of CBD in your system. Okay? CBG, we want to get a bunch of CBG in your system. Then THC, we want to work up to where you can tolerate 10, 15 milligrams of THC per dose. Okay?

Tim Pickett:
So that’s a whole gummy. So we have a tincture here, it’s made by green revolution. It’s a water base tincture, which is cool because that means it’s emulsified in water so it will absorb fast. For one dropper full, it’s going to have 12 and a half milligrams of CBD, and 2.5 milligrams of THC. This is actually going to be pretty dang good for … And it has a teeny bit of CBG.

Tim Pickett:
So this is good for all the time. Half a dropper full at a time, is the same as your Moxey Mint. Okay? Half a dropper full … That’s not true. One dropper full is the same as your Moxey Mint.

Michelle Spear:
The red ones?

Tim Pickett:
Yep. One dropper full. I don’t know what flavor or what … Let’s taste it.

Michelle Spear:
Does it taste like dirt?

Tim Pickett:
It probably tastes like skunks and dirt. Take just a drop. we’re not going to get high, just to taste it. Just a drop.

Michelle Spear:
Under my tongue or on top?

Tim Pickett:
It doesn’t matter because we’re just tasting it. That’s one drop, thank you. Put the lid back on.

Michelle Spear:
That’s not too bad. It’s lemony.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah, it feels lemony. Now a full dropper you’re going to, “That’s in the back of my throat, it’s like oh.”

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. I can tell.

Tim Pickett:
It’s a little planty. You can mix this with stuff.

Michelle Spear:
With a big Mac?

Tim Pickett:
You can mix this with a big Mac. I know you love big Macs.

Michelle Spear:
Wait, no my peanut butter.

Tim Pickett:
Peanut butter and jelly. Nana over there, so for those of you who are now listening, if you want a Christmas card with a cannabis flower on it or marijuana norm that’s Nana, sock monkey, everything. She’s making strawberry jam over here.

Michelle Spear:
We are not going to put any cannabis.

Tim Pickett:
No cannabis, because the kids are coming home. So the marijuana norms and the cards are pretty popular. So not runny jam, just regular good strawberry jam. Because at Michelle’s house, they go through a bottle of jam, how often?

Michelle Spear:
Every two weeks.

Tim Pickett:
A bottle of strawberry jam every two weeks. And we just got home from Costco where you literally bought six bags of those ding, what are they?

Michelle Spear:
The Reese’s chocolate eggs.

Tim Pickett:
Because why?

Michelle Spear:
The eggs are fresh? The peanut butter is fresh. You know when you go and get a Reese’s bar and you’re like, “Oh this is pretty still, it’s been here for six months.” But those ones are the hearts at Valentine’s, and the Easter ones are fresh and they’re yummy. And I eat them.

Tim Pickett:
Place we went when I show up in the … On the airplane, we go from the important to Costco. She goes in there, she shows her ID card. The eggs are at the front. She just starts loading the bags into the cart.

Michelle Spear:
I think I got six or seven support.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. Tincture is a five to one. You can take one dropper full at a time and not get roller coaster. Okay?

Michelle Spear:
Okay. That wasn’t too bad. I haven’t tasted any [crosstalk 00:17:42].

Tim Pickett:
It’s not terrible. Okay. That’s going to last you six hours. Okay? So you can do that three, four times a day, that’s fine. But you need to do something like that every single day to build up some tolerance. Okay?

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
Like a half a dropper in the morning, every single morning only to build up tolerance, and to get some CBD in your system. Because the CBD will help overall. Okay? Now, we’re going to move on to this Wyld some gummies. In Utah these are called [inaudible 00:18:15].

Tim Pickett:
So Wyld, W-Y-L-D this is one of my favorite brands. They’re totally natural. They’re peach, this one’s a peach gummy. Why are they in a bag? This is dumb. Hey, do you have any-?

Michelle Spear:
It has a zipper?

Tim Pickett:
So child-proof ziploc bags, you push your … You put your hands and then you twist it. When you open a gummy or a flower package-

Michelle Spear:
Or a Moxey Mint even they do natural.

Tim Pickett:
They have these little childproof bags, and you can’t open the bag just by pulling the bag open. You have to push your fingers on the opposite sides of the zip lock, and then you twist it.

Michelle Spear:
You’re snapping your fingers.

Tim Pickett:
Like you’re snapping your fingers, and it will slide the Ziploc open and it will open your bag.

Michelle Spear:
I cut mine sometimes too.

Tim Pickett:
Everybody cuts them open. So inside here, all of these are individually wrapped. What a waste of plastic. They are two to one CBD to THC, but these are 10 milligrams per gummy. That is the same as-

Michelle Spear:
Full dropper.

Tim Pickett:
Four droppers full. Four droppers full is the same as this. So now we’re cutting these into quarters. Right? Now, this will last you eight hours. This will last you eight hours. And it takes a little longer to take effect. So you want to plan ahead.

Tim Pickett:
So cut these into quarters, and you take one of these, is the same as a Moxey Mint. But they taste better and they have two times the CBD again, because CBD is the sandpaper to THC. It’s smooth is out the rough edges. Okay? These are going to be super good. And I already-

Michelle Spear:
I’m getting a marker.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Can you write all this stuff down?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. Maybe just-

Tim Pickett:
So you can make a list.

Michelle Spear:
Because I can’t remember my own name sometimes.

Suzi St. Jeor:
[inaudible 00:20:30].

Tim Pickett:
Tincture is going to act in … I would say this one where it’s water-based, is probably going to act within 20 … It’s going to start acting within 20 to 45 minutes. Where a gummy would take 45 minutes to an hour and a half to take full effect for most people. Some people with a gummy it’ll take two plus hours.

Tim Pickett:
But the Tinctures, the water-based Tinctures tend to work a little faster. Oil-based Tinctures tend to work a little slower. So the Tinctures again, half a dropper, three times a day, totally fine. One drop is 2.5 milligrams THC and-

Michelle Spear:
So it build up that one?

Tim Pickett:
So build up. That’s the one that you are using to build up the tolerance. Then you have the peach gummy, which is pretty similar, but you only want to take a quarter of the gummy at a time.

Michelle Spear:
And it lasts eight hours?

Tim Pickett:
It’ll last eight hours. And it takes a long time to take effect. I’m going to put the gummies inside the medicine bag. Okay? I’ve got a medicine bag here. It’s a skunk pilot bag, it has a little lock, little luggage lock, kids don’t get in. It keeps all the medicine away from the kids. Do you want these in the cute box?

Michelle Spear:
No, it doesn’t matter.

Tim Pickett:
Or do you just want them here?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah, just in there. Right now I keep them with my dog treats.

Tim Pickett:
Yes.

Michelle Spear:
Because I’m hoping my kids don’t eat dog treats. [crosstalk 00:21:54].

Tim Pickett:
As a side note, if you want to protect your children from the gummies, just keep them with the dog treats.

Michelle Spear:
Exactly. That’s what I do.

Tim Pickett:
Okay.

Suzi St. Jeor:
[inaudible 00:22:07].

Tim Pickett:
Right? Well I guess, unless you want to give the gummies to the dogs. Okay. Second one is the Wyld pair. This is cool. This one I really like, it’s got CBG and THC. Okay? So one to one. So this is going to be different. This will feel different.

Tim Pickett:
People call this a bubble bath for your brain. With the CBG same thing, you’re going to cut this in quarters. You’re going to cut this in quarters. And I think you’re going to like these a lot for the daytime.

Michelle Spear:
And do they last eight hours?

Tim Pickett:
Yes. I would consider this one to be my pain gummy.

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
My pain gummy during the day.

Suzi St. Jeor:
Your what?

Tim Pickett:
The pain. Because CBG tends to be a little bit better for pain. Right?

Michelle Spear:
You’re trying to get rid of my oxycodone?

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. I mean, you don’t have a colon so you … So poop moves through faster.

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
So the oxycodone does have a benefit, because it slows you down.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
And we’re not really worried about you getting addicted at this point. Right? But you don’t take that very often.

Michelle Spear:
No, I only … I don’t.

Tim Pickett:
Because your right hip, your left knee … And what else was it?

Michelle Spear:
My back.

Tim Pickett:
Your back hurts. Is that new starting chemo?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. My hip has always hurt. I think we dance. But it’s weird because it’s not my knee that I tore my meniscus on, it’s my other knee.

Tim Pickett:
What about your back?

Michelle Spear:
I think my back is because I sleep with my dogs.

Tim Pickett:
And then you just don’t sleep very well, your dogs are all over the place?

Michelle Spear:
Yes. Always sleep on my back or my face.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. So green is the CBG. That’s the pain, we do that one for pain. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
The peach one is a balance. Okay? That’s good. This is fun, this is like Christmas. Okay. Now, we’re going to move on. We’re going to add this CBD Tincture. Okay? CBD Tincture. This is the one I brought from home. It’s a Zion medicinal CBD Tincture. This one is a little bit pepperminty from the taste, and it’s an oil based Tincture.

Tim Pickett:
And this one has, let me see, for a full … A full dropper full is going to be 30 milligram CBD. You really need to take one of these at least one full dropper a day. This will not get you high at all. Okay? So I’m going to put a whole milliliter in the dropper full, put it in my mouth and then it is … I don’t I just eat it.

Suzi St. Jeor:
You say that [inaudible 00:25:13].

Tim Pickett:
Yeah, the under your tongue will absorb a little bit better, but honestly I don’t get too crazy about that. I’m much more practical, I feel like that’s … I don’t know.

Michelle Spear:
My zone friend that’s what … They’re always like, “Underneath.” I’m like, “Yeah, I’m just sticking it on my tongue.”

Tim Pickett:
Just chew it. It absorbs pretty quick.

Michelle Spear:
Well, on the roof of your mouth too. So I just stick it to my roof.

Tim Pickett:
Instead of up your nose, you put the cocaine under your tongue. Yeah. Well, okay. Thanks. Thank you. I never really tried it, so I don’t know. Most people haven’t tried that out, but yes, it will absorb faster.

Tim Pickett:
So try that. I feel like that’s like a Starburst, it’s oily. I mean, take a half a dropper, I promise it’s not going to get you high.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. It’s like oil.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah, it’s MCT oil it’s … Which is a coconut oil thing. So see how it coach your mouth a little bit?

Michelle Spear:
No, it’d be good for my mouth sores. You never know.

Tim Pickett:
So you want to build up to where you’re taking a dropper in the morning and a dropper in the afternoon. Doesn’t have to be full, it just has to be … I tell patients, “Just take a slug of it in the morning and a slug of it in the afternoon.” We’re building up cannabinoids in the system. Okay? We’re building up cannabinoids in the system. No high. Okay? Could help your pain long term.

Tim Pickett:
It’s a little bit anti-inflammatory, it could help your … I mean, it can help your anxiety, reduce the use of a lorazepam if you took that. Okay. Now, we’re getting into the real deal and I know this is out of the wheelhouse for you, but I brought up vape pen. Okay? A vape pen, I brought some flower too. We’ll talk about that in a minute. So this is called a battery.

Tim Pickett:
This is a Yocan pro battery, and this is what you put the vaporizers in. Now, I brought up two clean leaf vape carts. These little cartridges will not get you high. Okay? They won’t get you high, but they’re pretty strong. Okay. Have you ever tried one of these mom?

Suzi St. Jeor:
Well, I vape.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. But this is CBD only. So this one is called Balance. Okay? You have one that’s called Balance and one that’s called Uplift.

Michelle Spear:
What I would say is, why would I?

Tim Pickett:
Why would I use a non … A cartridge that would not get me high? Well, I’ll tell you why.

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
If you have a super low tolerance to THC, or you’re trying to get off of a medication and you’re just trying to chill out, or you get way too high from the gummy. And you’re like, “Oh my God, I’m I like … I think I need to go to the ER, I’m pretty anxious about this.”

Tim Pickett:
Then you take a nice inhalation off of this vape pen and it just will … Smooths out the rough edges of what’s going on. Okay? You’re fighting with everybody, go in the garage and you take a little head off those things. And you’re like, “Oh, I’m not high. I just feel a little bit better.” What are you doing?

Suzi St. Jeor:
What’s that called?

Tim Pickett:
This one’s Balance. So I sell these in the clinic.

Suzi St. Jeor:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
Because Kyle Eggbert is the guy who makes these and he’s just … He’s a good guy. He knows what he is doing. He makes strong vape carts like this, they’re non THC. This one has CBN, CBG, CB … It’s like CBDV.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So what is the-

Tim Pickett:
CBD, CBG, CBC, CBN, CBDV and THCV, this is all good … These are all the best cannabinoid.

Suzi St. Jeor:
I have a vape pen, but what’s [crosstalk 00:29:17]?

Tim Pickett:
This one is a little bigger and the battery will last a little longer. So I use this one because it’s foolproof.

Suzi St. Jeor:
It’s cute.

Tim Pickett:
It’s simple, it’s gold, it’s … Is that mov? What do you call it?

Suzi St. Jeor:
Yeah. Natural rose gold.

Tim Pickett:
Rose gold. At the bottom of the vape cart there’s a … What’s called a five 10 thread. See that little thing? I think your neuropathic fingers can put this on there. Did you lose the ability to knit?

Michelle Spear:
You know what, actually, I can knit, but holding my hands closed for too long hurts. So I actually don’t knit anymore.

Tim Pickett:
Can you feel the ends of your fingers?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. If they get too cold or too hot, they hurt like pain.

Tim Pickett:
Your feet too?

Michelle Spear:
Yes. My feet are more sensitive than my hands.

Tim Pickett:
When did that happen?

Michelle Spear:
After the first round of chemo I did, the Oxaliplatin and they … That gives you neuropathy.

Tim Pickett:
Forever?

Michelle Spear:
Forever. It got better after six months, but it … I don’t like to get pedicures because I don’t like people to touch my feet because it … You can feel them touching your feet, but it’s a weird sensation.

Tim Pickett:
Is it like pins and needles?

Michelle Spear:
Sometimes yeah. I always have to wear shoes.

Tim Pickett:
Even in your house?

Michelle Spear:
Even in my house.

Tim Pickett:
Just because of the-

Michelle Spear:
The feeling of it being-

Tim Pickett:
Is there like a burning?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
Mostly a burning?

Michelle Spear:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Tim Pickett:
And that’s the hands too?

Michelle Spear:
My hands aren’t as bad, but I have to be careful because I can touch hot things and not know that I’m touching hot things.

Tim Pickett:
And then you get burned?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Suzi St. Jeor:
One time she stuck something in her leg and did not know it was bleeding.

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. I did stuck a X-acto knife in my leg one time and I was like, “Oh dang.”

Tim Pickett:
Wow. Okay.

Michelle Spear:
And then it was bleeding at a baseball game and they’re like-

Tim Pickett:
Hey Michelle.

Michelle Spear:
“Michelle you’re bleeding.” And it was bleeding into my shoe.

Tim Pickett:
Wow. Okay. Well-

Michelle Spear:
Good thing I had a first aid kid in my car.

Tim Pickett:
This has been sitting for a little while. So you see how it’s crystallized, so we may have to use a blow dryer or something warm to … Go ahead. Yes, you’re raising your hand.

Suzi St. Jeor:
I know it won’t work for you, but put it in your bra-

Tim Pickett:
It will not work for me.

Suzi St. Jeor:
I put my [inaudible 00:31:49] if there was sticky.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. So the crystallization just is something that sometimes happens. And so you can heat it up and you can reactivate the oil in there. So you turn the five, 10 thread onto there and then you just drop it in like that. And then it just magnetizes to the bottom. You can turn that if you want to lock it in, and then literally you just push this button and it’s on and you let go and it’s off.

Tim Pickett:
But five clicks turns it on, and five clicks turns it off. Okay? Five clicks turns it on, five clicks turns it off. I never turn it off. So I never really have to worry about this, because it just shuts off on its own. And the battery will last three weeks.

Tim Pickett:
And then you see the number on the screen there, it’s 2.7, it will go up. So the higher the number, the harsher the inhalation. So you want it at about 3.0 is my low. Okay? And then you push the button.

Suzi St. Jeor:
Hey, do you have to hold it a long time?

Tim Pickett:
No. Total myth. There is so much surface area in your lungs, you do not need to hold your breath. You just-

Suzi St. Jeor:
Even the THC?

Tim Pickett:
Yeah, you do not do that. Okay. So all you’re going to do is-

Suzi St. Jeor:
My whole [inaudible 00:33:24].

Tim Pickett:
You’re just going to push this button, you’re going to … I don’t know who’s calling you, but I’m sure it’s not important. Maybe it is important. Okay. You’re welcome to try this.

Tim Pickett:
This is not the one that gets you high, so you don’t need to worry about that. Yeah, that’s the CBD oil. It’s good. Well, yeah, it looks the same than [crosstalk 00:33:49].

Michelle Spear:
Okay, one more time. You hold the button down.

Tim Pickett:
Yep. You hold the button down and it’s activated-

Suzi St. Jeor:
And just suck it in.

Tim Pickett:
And then you just … Not big, just [crosstalk 00:33:58].

Michelle Spear:
No [crosstalk 00:33:58].

Tim Pickett:
So you sip.

Michelle Spear:
But you don’t swallow?

Tim Pickett:
That’s right. But you’re but you’re thinking about it like sipping it. You’re not going to suck it in. Okay? Just a little bit.

Michelle Spear:
I’m so going to cough.

Tim Pickett:
It’s just a little. Okay just push the button just a little. I know, it’s weird. Yep. Now it’s on, now you in … That’s too much now. Yeah blow it out, oh my gosh so you got it in your mouth. So that’s good.

Suzi St. Jeor:
Did you get it in your lungs?

Tim Pickett:
No, she didn’t get it in her lungs, but that’s okay.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So just make sure that you’re breathing all in.

Tim Pickett:
That’s twice as much as you need.

Michelle Spear:
So wait, you hold it less?

Tim Pickett:
Yes.

Michelle Spear:
Let me do it again.

Tim Pickett:
So look, I’m inhaling, then I’m exhaling.

Michelle Spear:
Because I can feel it in the back of my throat now.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Because you took it into your mouth, but you didn’t let it get into your lungs. So you sucked on it, but you didn’t inhale it. Okay, just not as big.

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
So breathe in your belly, just a little.

Michelle Spear:
This is like voiceless.

Tim Pickett:
This is like voice lessons. I know this [crosstalk 00:35:14].

Michelle Spear:
Wait, push your belly out?

Tim Pickett:
See you just did it, you breathe. Just put that to your mouth while you do that.

Michelle Spear:
Like that?

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Just do that. Just normal breathing, just hold the button down. Pretty much. Okay. You’re doing it pretty much. There you go. This is how you teach your sister how to smoke weed.

Suzi St. Jeor:
You need to get a little bit more than that.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah, but that’s okay. We started-

Suzi St. Jeor:
But it’s normal breathing.

Tim Pickett:
But it’s normal breathing. Okay? Two second inhalation. Okay?

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
I mean, I tried smoking before, we’re smokers so in the past. So I take it into my mouth and then I inhale it, that’s a smoker thing. That’s what mom does.

Suzi St. Jeor:
That’s what I do. [crosstalk 00:36:02].

Tim Pickett:
Because that’s a smoker thing I think.

Michelle Spear:
Wait, let me see it again.

Tim Pickett:
So just suck inhale it.

Michelle Spear:
I can see that.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Okay. Try it one more time. This is like the [inaudible 00:36:18] thing.

Suzi St. Jeor:
I do that, I didn’t know that time.

Tim Pickett:
I can totally feel that calming the situation. Yeah. Perfect. You did it. Okay. No more. You’re going to get too much CBD. Don’t want you to get crazy on the CBD. Okay. I mean, people say that CBD is not psychoactive, but it does calm people down, which by definition is psychoactive.

Tim Pickett:
So you have one that’s called uplift. Okay? That’s going to be energy day time. So not high, just energy nausea during the daytime that’s uplift. Okay? And then you have the other one called balance.

Michelle Spear:
Like red bull. That’s what it should called.

Tim Pickett:
This black one is called red bull.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So if you take it out of the package and you don’t keep it in the package, you’re not going to know which just which so [crosstalk 00:37:16].

Tim Pickett:
So just write down black daytime, white I don’t know.

Suzi St. Jeor:
Relaxation.

Tim Pickett:
Chill. Yeah. White is chill.

Suzi St. Jeor:
In the couch.

Tim Pickett:
In the couch. Now, I have two more of these that are a little different. Okay? But we only have one, five, 10 thread. That’s the one drawback with these batteries, just don’t lose that because these things go together. So now I have powered by … It’s a Zenergy balance THC and CBG. So remember the pair ones that we talked about with CBG?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
This is exactly the same thing just a vaporized cartridge. This is pretty cool. I was really impressed with these, the way they describe it. So this one says balance Zenergy pain. Okay? Pain. Because that one’s the CBG one. And they come with these little … They come with these little caps on them, which is fine if you want to put those back on and you put them in here.

Tim Pickett:
See there’s a little … In the skunk bag there’s a little thing, and you can just put them all in here. So pain. Now, you inhale this one, you’re getting high. Okay? But could be better for if you’re doing chemo day. If you’re not doing chemo day, these might be great. And these might be great with this. All right? I don’t know. These are just, you just have to experiment with this.

Michelle Spear:
Okay. So always put this on the bottom?

Tim Pickett:
Yes. So screw that on. We’ll give this one a shot.

Suzi St. Jeor:
[crosstalk 00:39:03] keep one in the thing and that way you’ll never lose the battery.

Tim Pickett:
Of course. Yeah. You always want to keep one cartridge loaded in the battery.

Michelle Spear:
Okay. And then you just drop it in?

Tim Pickett:
Yep, drop it in. Then you push the button, suck inhale and you’re there. And see how the top of that one’s round, so you can tell. Round, going to get me a little high.

Michelle Spear:
But the ones that are flat-

Tim Pickett:
Well, this one’s flat too and it’s going to get you high if you try this one too. So all different.

Michelle Spear:
It’s not necessarily.

Tim Pickett:
No, it’s not universal. I’m going to open this one. So that one is CBG. That one’s going to be good for daytime and pain. This one is sativa, so daytime. So both of these vape cartridges are both daytime. This one is very similar to the other one. Where did we put the other one? So see the black one it looks the same.

Michelle Spear:
I have labeled it. I’ll Just label those.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Label this one as daytime. This one’s daytime, but this one has THC in it. Okay?

Michelle Spear:
So the balance Zenergy is for pain? That one is for-

Tim Pickett:
Balance Zenergy, pain. This one is going to be … I mean, this was basically like … This is a THC vaporized cart, a sativa dominant vape cart.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So it’s not a downer though?

Tim Pickett:
It’s not a downer, this is an upper. Because you were saying you get really tired on that. And I know you, you tend not to want to be tired. Right? I know. I didn’t really buy … We didn’t buy a lot of downers.

Michelle Spear:
As soon as I hit the pillow man-

Tim Pickett:
You’re out.

Michelle Spear:
I’m out, snoring. [crosstalk 00:40:57]. Two seconds?

Tim Pickett:
You may have to turn it up, a couple of notches. Cotton candy, that tastes like cotton freaking candy.

Michelle Spear:
Yummy. I like cotton candy.

Tim Pickett:
It does huh? So that cloud right there you saw from her, that’s way too much for you. Okay? Way too much. Her tolerance has been built up over months and years. Okay? So you can taste this. So taste this, but don’t really inhale a lot. A little more than that. Oh my gosh.

Michelle Spear:
You said little.

Tim Pickett:
I know. And to your credit.

Michelle Spear:
I can taste the cotton candy. Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
So the one that tastes like cotton candy is the pain one. I’m glad you’re taking notes.

Suzi St. Jeor:
THC too?

Tim Pickett:
But it’s THC. And then this one, let me just see what this one tastes like. These vape carts they’re just so convenient, because they’re not going to smell up your house. And if you get too much, these are one to two hours of effect. These are not going to knock you out, so you can’t go pick up the kids.

Tim Pickett:
If you need to eat lunch and you’re doing chemo and you just need to get rid of the nausea so you can have a little energy, and get a little stuff done around here, and eat lunch, and then be sober to go pick up the kids, the vape cart is the answer. Right? The gummy is going to last you a long time. So the gummies are good for microdosing throughout the day and the night.

Tim Pickett:
And then you can use these on top of the gummies. And put your coat on it’s cold. You keep your house cold anyway. I mean, this one tastes like weeds. It doesn’t taste like cannabis, but it just tastes like grass. Okay. I’m going to leave the cotton candy one in. Okay?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah. Hello, cotton candy is way better.

Tim Pickett:
I know because we were talking about the eggs, the sugar. This is going to be interesting.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So the cotton candy is THC though?

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. Cotton candy is THC. So that’s your battery.

Michelle Spear:
Well, this is why I haven’t lost weight, see because I eat my Moxey Mints and I eat all my candy eggs.

Tim Pickett:
So that one I’m going to put in here. See, it’s a silver bottom with black top THC, black bottom black top only CBD. I’ll put that in there. You’ll be fine, you can call me.

Michelle Spear:
I’ll label those later.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. Charger. Okay? There’s a charger for your battery that just plugs into right there. Okay? Normal USB. Okay. And mostly you can just put that in your purse and then you’re good. So final thing, you don’t have to use this, but you should have access to it, flower. So I have an eighth of flower that’s 3.5 grams of cannabis flower.

Tim Pickett:
And I have a DaVinci IQ2, this is the top of the line, medical grade, dry herb vaporizer. This is an oven for weed that will bake it so that you can inhale the vapor, get all the magic, but you won’t have the burning in your lungs. This is not smoking. Okay? Okay. I’m going to-

Michelle Spear:
This is more vaping?

Tim Pickett:
This is called vaping, but it is dry herb vaping. It is not oil. Okay? It’s the real flowevr. So inside the box is what’s called a little straw. So I’ll pull this out. Okay? So see then this just flips over, and now it looks like it looks like a joint or a vape cartridge.

Tim Pickett:
Right? It looks like that’s the place you put your mouth. Same thing you push this button five times, I don’t know who came up with five.

Suzi St. Jeor:
I don’t know but they’re all the same.

Tim Pickett:
It’s totally random they’re all the same five times. And on the front, on the IQ2, it will show you how much the battery is and what mode it is. So this is on the mode where that’s three, that’s four, so this is the temperature. So for you, I would say probably a temperature of two is going to be fine.

Tim Pickett:
Two or three. Okay? That’s going to be between 350 degrees and 430 all the way to the top. And then this will heat up and it will vibrate when it’s ready. And then it will stay on for about eight minute. Okay?

Suzi St. Jeor:
Vibrate when it’s [crosstalk 00:46:19].

Tim Pickett:
When it’s ready, so it’s hot.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So you haven’t put the-

Tim Pickett:
No, I have not put the pot in the base. There’s a bottom little dial that I think you don’t really need to worry about. It affects how much air flow is coming through the chamber.

Michelle Spear:
Okay. So you to turn it five times on, click it on, and then you push the button to cook it?

Tim Pickett:
Nope. With this once it’s on it’s cooking.

Michelle Spear:
It’s going to cooking.

Tim Pickett:
It’s cooking the weed in the oven.

Michelle Spear:
You don’t have to push the button until you-

Tim Pickett:
You don’t have to push the button until you want to turn it off, five times. Okay? You’re only turning the temperature up and down on this one, because you want … So now let’s show you where to put the flower.

Tim Pickett:
So all you do is you just push it open like that, and then there’s a little chamber in the bottom. You see that little chamber?

Michelle Spear:
Yes.

Tim Pickett:
You put your weed in there. Okay? Now, the there’s a couple of options to put the flower in there. This is a little stir stick. It’s an extra stir stick because inside the top of the DaVinci, they have a stir stick already. Because when you use these-

Michelle Spear:
You’re going to have to take it out.

Tim Pickett:
Well, you have to clean it out. So you have to dump it on the lawn. You know what I mean? On the lawn. You can save it, but don’t worry about that right now. You can save the old vape grindings and make them into oil. But it’s not worth it right now. We just want to keep things simple. Okay? Keep it simple because this is already as complicated. I’m sure when you’re looking at this as it possibly can be.

Tim Pickett:
So let me put this back together. Okay. So that’s an extra stir stick, and it comes also with these little ceramic … The ceramic container. So if you want to, I think your fingers would have a hard time with this. So I don’t don’t know that this is going to be perfect for you, but you can try it. You can grind the flower and you can put it in there, and then you can put this on like that.

Tim Pickett:
And it’s a little container. It’s a teeny, tiny little container of weed, and then you drop that inside. So some people really don’t want to put weed in there because it gets it dirty, and so they really want to keep it clean. I don’t care. You can clean this out with alcohol and it’s fine.

Tim Pickett:
But you can use that. And if you are concerned about dosing and how much weed you’re putting in there, then you can use this little thing. Shit that thing is hotter than mother. Careful. Yeah. That oven is-

Michelle Spear:
I’ll touch it my hand is-

Tim Pickett:
That’s so stupid. That’s so funny.

Suzi St. Jeor:
That’s not funny. Are you okay?

Tim Pickett:
So that’s ceramic, so it won’t give off any taste. So the taste of the weed still stays. Your home teachers?

Michelle Spear:
No, it’s my delivery.

Tim Pickett:
It’s Amazon. Yes. Okay. So open that and smell it.

Michelle Spear:
It’s going to smell gross.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. That smells exactly like weed right there.

Michelle Spear:
That’s very strong.

Tim Pickett:
It is. So this is pretty strong. This is totally organic, totally pesticide-free, including natural pesticides that they use essential oils and stuff. Because I think for you where you’re immunocompromised, you really want to reduce the number of things that you put in your lungs that are contaminants. Right?

Tim Pickett:
So clean things really important for somebody like you. For everybody, but somebody like you. That’s a bud, that’s a nug, okay, and you’re just going to press that into the grinder so it sticks.

Michelle Spear:
Okay.

Tim Pickett:
Now, you can watch YouTube to figure out how to do this. Then you’re going to take the top of the grinder, and I’ve got you a baby grinder. And you put that down and then you just twist this like this back and forth. There’s the sound of it. And then you tap it for good luck.

Michelle Spear:
Tap.

Tim Pickett:
You got to tap it for good luck. I always tap it. I always tap the grinder for good luck, it’s the thing. Yeah it’s the grinder you put the nug of weed in there. Whoopsy, we’re making a mess. You put the nug and then you grind it. And then you open up the second chamber and that’s where the grindings are.

Michelle Spear:
So easy.

Tim Pickett:
Ain’t that weird. So this is essentially an herb grinder. Right? That you’ve used for Weed, but it’s an aluminum herb grinder.

Suzi St. Jeor:
That [inaudible 00:51:32] was hella fresh.

Tim Pickett:
When you get your time and you’re doing it. So at the bottom, there’s a little container.

Michelle Spear:
Spoon.

Tim Pickett:
Yeah. A little spatula and people put … This is where the … What falls in there is called kief. You don’t need to write this down. It’s called kief. It’s just the trichomes fall down in there, and it’s really potent down in there. And some people smoke enough weed that they actually accumulate a lot of kief. And then they’ll use it in their joints or in their flower as a boost, it’s like an octane booster.

Tim Pickett:
You will never need to worry about kief. Okay? And I think most people need to just forget about it as a thing, they just need to get over it. But that’s my personal opinion, thank you very much. Okay. So you’re going to open this up. Okay. Now everybody learns how to do this in a certain way, but you see I put my thumb right there, and then I hold this so between my thumb and my third finger, and then I tip it and I use my finger to fill that.

Tim Pickett:
To fill that DaVinci on the bottom. And then I tap the DaVinci with my finger, because the DaVinci is shaped like a funnel. So everything falls in there, and you just fill it up to the white line. See that white line inside? I just fill it up to about the white line loose.

Tim Pickett:
Now this there’s a round nubbin on the end of the DaVinci that heats up as well. So you’re getting heat from both ends. And then you’ll just close that like a magnet, and now it’s loaded up ready to go.

Michelle Spear:
And then you click five times to-

Tim Pickett:
And it will heat up and then when it vibrates, we’re going to do the same thing with this as we did with the vaporizer pen, the battery. Right? We’re going to just inhale it, and we’re going to exhale it. Okay, that is how to use flower. I’m going to put this in the little thing, and I’m going to tell you the reasons why is people choose flower over the oil. The flower is the natural plant.

Tim Pickett:
So a lot of people really like the natural thing. Flower the sensation’s different, it’s called the entourage effect. It’s going to be more like … To me, it’s the difference between eating canned tomato sauce and an heirloom fresh ripe tomato from the vine. Flower tends to be a little bit more rich experience, whereas the vaporized oil tends to be a little more grocery store, convenience store experience for when you build up tolerance and send you start enjoying this.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. And the smell becomes not so gross. Flower will last longer too, it will last three to four hours. The effects will last three to four hours and it is much more mild. The flower is 20% THC in here, but the vaporized cartridge is 77% THC. So the same inhalation is much more powerful with the oil. It’s three times more powerful than the inhalation with the flower.

Suzi St. Jeor:
So if you-

Tim Pickett:
For the same amount of product.

Suzi St. Jeor:
If you heat that up and smoke it, then it … That is just done?

Tim Pickett:
It looks like coffee grounds.

Suzi St. Jeor:
But can you heat it back up and [crosstalk 00:55:20]?

Tim Pickett:
You can use this, for somebody like you could get at least two to three sessions out of one loaded DaVinci, two to three sessions. For somebody like me with a small amount there, I would use it up all in one. You might use it up all in one. Right?

Tim Pickett:
Because you’re going to use … You’re going to inhale … Michelle, you’re going to inhale three or four times with this and be totally fine. Maybe even two times and be totally good. I’m going to burn it down. Right? I’m going to use up the whole thing. Because when I hurt my back, I wanted 50 milligrams of THC inhaled and you want five. Right?

Michelle Spear:
Yeah.

Tim Pickett:
There is an app you can connect the DaVinci to your phone, but I don’t really think that’s important right now. That will tell you exactly how many milligrams you’re inhaling.

Michelle Spear:
Oh really?

Tim Pickett:
It’s really cool. So that when you want to dial it in, then you can say, “That’s how I know I had a product that was 27% THC.” You put that in your phone, then as you inhale it tells you, “Okay, you’re at eight milligrams. Okay, you’re at 16. Okay, you’re at about 20. Okay, you’re you’re jacking it up. Okay, you’re 48. Okay, watch out you’re getting … Mayday, mayday you’re going to get too high.”

Suzi St. Jeor:
So that’s really good because then if you’re thinking one time this is perfect.

Tim Pickett:
Well, then you could look at your phone and you could say, “Oh yeah, that session I was 30 milligrams or I was 10 milligrams.”

Suzi St. Jeor:
[inaudible 00:56:53].

Michelle Spear:
Or nine.

Tim Pickett:
So that is flower. Okay? This is really why this bag is so nice because this bag will take all of that smell and keep it inside. Okay?

Suzi St. Jeor:
There’s also the toilet paper roll with that. So if you inhale [crosstalk 00:57:17].

Tim Pickett:
This grinder is so little that there’s still always going to be a little bit of grindings in there. And it’s not that big of a deal, you can just dump them out somewhere, but you can store it in there. You want to grind about as much as you want to use or within a few days, because it’ll dry out in here and then it’ll become a little bit more harsh.

Tim Pickett:
Okay. So that can all just stay right there. Okay? I think the important things seem to be gummies, the Tinctures, and then this vape cartridge, because it … You can layer the microdosing of the gummies with the inhaled method on top. And you can just try it.

Michelle Spear:
And notes in here.

Tim Pickett:
And you can put your notes in there. Now, I don’t know when you want to put all these. I’ll put this DaVinci thing here. What do you think about all this?

Michelle Spear:
No, I think it’s going to help. Yeah.

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Published April 7, 2022
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